News of the Day III

[dannybolt]

Yeah, I am so sorry not having run right out and signed up for a newly enacted law in 2014.
And its totally my fault and for my blatant and "catastrophic" ignorance of a this new law, like you, or anyone else totally understood it when it was trotted out by BO, NP and CS.
Just a bit of real life perspective, which isn't bullshit...pal.
I was having 6 major moving sales summer 2013/2014 selling and clearing out personal belongings accumulated after living in Florida 21 years raising a large family. (I moved to Florida with 18000 lbs. in a tractor trailer, left in a self packed Penske).
Yeah, all this while continuing to work a full time job in preparation to make a move to Maine, a state I had visited a handful of times.
Finding, packing and moving the remainder of our belongings into storage with my wife.
Working on the house and grounds in preparation to sell by owner.
Looking for a camper, buying it and setting it up in a park to finish our months out in Florida.
Three major sales on my dads trailer in a neighboring town after my mom passed away, taking care of his business while he was out of state, selling his vehicle, and all their belongings accumulated in that place since the 1960's, cleaning, repairing and painting it for market ready.
All this within several months including 2014, yup, ACA enactment year.
Moving to Maine, had a job in 26 hours after arrival working part time at Lowes. Ooops, no health insurance there.
Looking for a suitable storage unit, driving and unloading truck from Florida.
Looking for a house to rent in a barren rental market while looking for and purchasing land, searching for subcontractors to build a home in a new state with limited available housing.
Finally deciding we better have something, so purchased a health policy thru Samaritans Purse, a Christian health bill share program after being turned down (again) by the VA.
After finding full time employment, shucks, there was a waiting period before I was eligible for their health care benefits.
So there it is, my gap in coverage, and then the nasty little surprise next tax season.
So yeah, real issues to a person making a legitimate move from one state to another and in my opinion got tagged unfairly, all the while tens of millions of dollars are handed out to illegal aliens.
I was busy, with real life.
It a hot, humid, stressful and exhausting process leaving Florida for Maine when that law was enacted. TV and news was pretty much non existent to us at that time as we did that move on our own, not hiring everyone in the world to do it for us while we laid on the beach.
For a person gainfully employed, which I was, I should not have been fined, ignorant or otherwise.
Screw you, your post and the perfect post comment as well.
It wasn't worth the electronic space it took.

Concerning Trump, in 2016 I voted for him because Clinton was not an option for me, and apparently about 50 Million others thought the same. So sorry if that hurts some of your feelings.
My past voting record does reflects voting mainly republican, but voted Democrat for Vermont Gov Dean, Independent/Dem for Sen. Bernie Sanders and Angus King, Independent for Ross Perot.
That covers both R, D and I.
Doubt most of you can claim that. If I was to guess, its mostly D.
For the most part, I vote for who I think will do the best job.

Everyone here has a right to their opinion without being absolutely trashed, whether you agree with it or not, at least be civil and respectful. If you cannot do that, maybe take a break, go for a walk and sit by the waterside enjoying a cold one watching a beautiful sunset.
We are all Lightning fans here, and I would go so fat to say all good people.
Life is too short to be hateful.

I've been civil to you in EVERY SINGLE interaction we've had previously. Despite having to rehash arguments with you, or posing thoughtful clarifying questions only to have you ignore them because, to paraphrase: they were too long (the reader will likely see the irony in this given the size of the post I'm now responding to).

You are again claiming you got done dirty by the IRS. Which is 100% not the case. It sounds like the year in question was particularly busy for you. I can sympathize. But again, the IRS does not accept ignorance of the law, or your own thoughts on the matter, as excuses. Would be nice, but it just ain't so.

And you listed out a whole lot of excuses that are frankly, not relevant to whether or not the IRS required you to carry health insurance or face a penalty. You moved? Not relevant. Gainful employment? Not relevant. Illegal aliens (lol what?)? Not relevant. You were real busy? Not relevant. In fact, with all of that stuff going on your best bet would probably have been to hire a CPA, who could have helped you navigate everything you were dealing with at the time, but that's monday morning quarterbacking on my end.

[dannybolt]

So you legitimately thought Trump and his administration would do a better job than Clinton and hers at running the country?

He's not alone. The thought at the time was that he would hire experts where necessary. Plenty of people looked at Hillary and thought she was corrupt. Plenty of people looked at both sides and realized their interests weren't being served by either one, and Trump was definitely not part of those establishment parties. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[Donnie D]

So you legitimately thought Trump and his administration would do a better job than Clinton and hers at running the country?

The real problem is that, after seeing him in action, so many currently think that he’s doing a great job.

[pete]

Pete: it’s 4:00 am. Are you still in line waiting to vote?

The republicans seem to have this mail in voter fraud thing down pat. Last week we learned that Derek Chauvin was voting in Florida even though he lives in Minneapolis. Now it’s Kayleigh McEnany. She has a New Jersey drivers license, yet voteDin in Florida using her mama’s address 11 times. Oh and Trump. He listed his legal residence at Mar-a-Lago despite signing an agreement with the county stipulating that he would never live there.

Republicans conducted a large investigation in Florida trying to find voter fraud and came up empty. Here are 3 leads for you.

The high school they moved my precinct to was pretty easy to get in and out of, Only took me 10 minutes yesterday, but it's a suburban precinct. I was glad about it, because I was squeamish about 'rona exposure if I had to wait in the long lines you saw at the urban precincts.

I don't like the new voting machines. The votes are still stored on a data card you slide into a touch screen machine, but when you're done they print a paper summary of your votes that then goes into this large box with a built-in scanner, which I presume also tallies votes as a backup. The whole thing is fairly counterintuitive, although there are, on paper, three levels of redundancy between the data card, the scanned tally, and then the actually paper ballot receipts in the boxes.

[pete]

Data from the feds on unemployment.

The official number is 13.3%. However when you add in the adjustment, the number of people who are working part time for economic reasons but want a full time job and those who want a full time job but aren’t looking, the number jumps to: 27.7%.

Interestingly, the census department reported that we were in an economic downturn in January and that COVID only accelerated the downturn. Shipments of products began decreasing in August 2019. Net you won’t hear that from Trump.

The NBER has determined the recession officially started in February. That news came out Monday, as I recall.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/economy/recession-economy-coronavirus-nber/index.html

[Donnie D]

Trump supporters show their true colors.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/video-shows-white-men-n-j-mocking-george-floyd-s-n1229051

[pete]

The Pope has weighed in with what is being interpreted as a rebuke of Trump:

https://apnews.com/10a84cc073faf4786f1c252e6bdf6a42

[pete]

Justice Department showed 'gross abuse of prosecutorial power" in Michael Flynn case, court-appointed arbiter says https://usatoday.com/story/news/poli...er/5332773002/ via
@USATODAY

https://twitter.com/SusanSolomon/status/1270767398229094401?s=20

Suck it, Barr.

The Justice Department showed a "gross abuse of prosecutorial power" in its push to drop the case against Michael Flynn, President Donald Trump's former national security adviser, a court-appointed arbiter said Wednesday.

Retired federal judge John Gleeson said the Justice Department's bid to dismiss Flynn's case should be denied because its arguments "are not credible," suggesting the government violated safeguards designed to prevent "dubious dismissals of criminal cases that would benefit powerful and well-connected defendants."

"The Department of Justice has a solemn responsibility to prosecute this case – like every other case – without fear or favor,” Gleeson argued. “It has abdicated that responsibility through a gross abuse of prosecutorial power, attempting to provide special treatment to a favored friend and political ally of the President of the United States. It has treated the case like no other, and in doing so has undermined the public’s confidence in the rule of law."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/06/10/michael-flynn-ex-judge-accuses-justice-department-abuse-power/5332773002/

Also, suck it, Dub Dub.

If Trump wants to save his felon buddy, he's gonna have to take the political hit and pardon him.

[pete]

Trump's approval rating in the Gallup poll cratered by 10 points between May and June and he's now down to a 39% approval rating.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx

That's in line with the 38% approval rating in the CNN/SRSS poll that the White House is having a hissy about and demanding CNN apologize for (good luck with that).

Rachel Bitcofer points out what could be a temporary blip... or the beginning of a landslide defeat for Trump:

What should have Trump pooing his pants is this- the ONE indicator I've been telling all of you to watch, the one that has NEVER budged, not once, and has been at 94% in Gallup data pretty steady.

Trump's approval among Rs: 85%

https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1270733594592530433?s=20

Before he died, John McCain told Claire McCaskill that Senate Republicans wouldn't bail on Trump unless his approvals got down in the mid-30's. Will he slide into that range? Probably not, but then again the worse things get for Trump the more insane unforced errors (like tear gassing a priest for a photo op) he tends to make. So, maybe?

[pete]

Bitcofer also posts...

Dear Republicans,

If you think you can wait out Trump/Trumpism- you're wrong bc Don Jr. is coming right behind him & the way politics/celebrity & your base currently works- he's the frontrunner in '24 unless you revolt right now.

This is your only chance to make a last stand.

https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1270699624794292225?s=20

She's right. Win, lose, or draw, Don Jr. will be the nominee of the alt-right in 2024.

[dannybolt]

Bitcofer also posts...

https://twitter.com/RachelBitecofer/status/1270699624794292225?s=20

She's right. Win, lose, or draw, Don Jr. will be the nominee of the alt-right in 2024.

Lots of time till then. Until then, Republicans can continue to play, ahem, Russian Roulette with the Trump administration.

[pete]

Lots of time till then.

I agree, but if Biden wins there will be a civil war in the Republican Party. Mark my words. Even if Biden smashes Sr. in this election, the Trumps will try to keep their cultists in the boat by claiming the Democrats and the Deep State somehow rigged the election. And they'll believe it. The hardcore ones and the easily persuaded dupes will believe it. They believed in Tha Caravan(!). They believed in Tha Hydroxychloriquine(!). They believe in Tha Antifa(!) and that a 75 year old man in Buffalo was one of their domestic terrorist super soldiers. And the Trumps will own and deploy their own, fully-controlled propaganda network (OANN) to make sure they believe it.

[pete]

WaPo's Robert Costa says the Republican Convention is going to... Jacksonville, FL.

GOP expects to move its convention to Jacksonville after dispute with North Carolina over pandemic safeguards...

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/1270693829784604682?s=20

Not surprised given that's DeSantis' community.

[Maverick9911]

NASCAR announced on Wednesday it would ban Confederate flags from its events, two days after the only black driver in the league's top series called on NASCAR to make the change.

The flag will no longer be allowed at races or displayed at any NASCAR properties, the league said in a statement posted to its Twitter account.

https://t.co/JC3qU1VXSx?amp=1

The internets should be fun tonight

[Bolthed]

Originally Posted by dannybolt View Post
Bull. Fucking. Shit.

I'm going to leave the whole failed health care system rammed down our throats statement alone, because it is a completely inane statement backed by nothing.

HOWEVER You yourself told us that you didn't carry health insurance and got tagged in your return for not having health insurance. Which was a requirement under the ACA
in the year in question. You claimed not to know about it at the time, however, the Republican Party (of which you are ostensibly a member), made such a big deal about that requirement they took it to the Supreme Court and it was a story on this board as well as every newspaper and news channel in the country. For. Months. We already had this conversation. I remember, because of how daft your argument was the last time you brought it up. This was not some arcane tax law that just so happened to catch you. It was front page, above the fold, top story news.

Quit your bullshit, bud. You are either being dishonest with us on this board, or yourself intellectually. Your choice, but nobody is interested in smelling the shit you are shoveling. You knew you were supposed to have it and chose not to buy insurance, or you are catastrophically ignorant of the issue you are complaining about. Either way, the IRS doesn't deem either of those as sufficient excuses to avoid a tax penalty. Nobody owes you 700.

This post is also perfection.



Yeah, I am so sorry not having run right out and signed up for a newly enacted law in 2014.
And its totally my fault and for my blatant and "catastrophic" ignorance of a this new law, like you, or anyone else totally understood it when it was trotted out by BO, NP and CS.
Just a bit of real life perspective, which isn't bullshit...pal.
I was having 6 major moving sales summer 2013/2014 selling and clearing out personal belongings accumulated after living in Florida 21 years raising a large family. (I moved to Florida with 18000 lbs. in a tractor trailer, left in a self packed Penske).
Yeah, all this while continuing to work a full time job in preparation to make a move to Maine, a state I had visited a handful of times.
Finding, packing and moving the remainder of our belongings into storage with my wife.
Working on the house and grounds in preparation to sell by owner.
Looking for a camper, buying it and setting it up in a park to finish our months out in Florida.
Three major sales on my dads trailer in a neighboring town after my mom passed away, taking care of his business while he was out of state, selling his vehicle, and all their belongings accumulated in that place since the 1960's, cleaning, repairing and painting it for market ready.
All this within several months including 2014, yup, ACA enactment year.
Moving to Maine, had a job in 26 hours after arrival working part time at Lowes. Ooops, no health insurance there.
Looking for a suitable storage unit, driving and unloading truck from Florida.
Looking for a house to rent in a barren rental market while looking for and purchasing land, searching for subcontractors to build a home in a new state with limited available housing.
Finally deciding we better have something, so purchased a health policy thru Samaritans Purse, a Christian health bill share program after being turned down (again) by the VA.
After finding full time employment, shucks, there was a waiting period before I was eligible for their health care benefits.
So there it is, my gap in coverage, and then the nasty little surprise next tax season.
So yeah, real issues to a person making a legitimate move from one state to another and in my opinion got tagged unfairly, all the while tens of millions of dollars are handed out to illegal aliens.
I was busy, with real life.
It a hot, humid, stressful and exhausting process leaving Florida for Maine when that law was enacted. TV and news was pretty much non existent to us at that time as we did that move on our own, not hiring everyone in the world to do it for us while we laid on the beach.
For a person gainfully employed, which I was, I should not have been fined, ignorant or otherwise.
Screw you, your post and the perfect post comment as well.
It wasn't worth the electronic space it took.

Concerning Trump, in 2016 I voted for him because Clinton was not an option for me, and apparently about 50 Million others thought the same. So sorry if that hurts some of your feelings.
My past voting record does reflects voting mainly republican, but voted Democrat for Vermont Gov Dean, Independent/Dem for Sen. Bernie Sanders and Angus King, Independent for Ross Perot.
That covers both R, D and I.
Doubt most of you can claim that. If I was to guess, its mostly D.
For the most part, I vote for who I think will do the best job.

Everyone here has a right to their opinion without being absolutely trashed, whether you agree with it or not, at least be civil and respectful. If you cannot do that, maybe take a break, go for a walk and sit by the waterside enjoying a cold one watching a beautiful sunset.
We are all Lightning fans here, and I would go so far to say, all good people with families and friends so can we not be more tolerant of each other?
Life is too short to be hateful.

Hockey soon.....Go Bolts!

Blah blah blah ... you think you were the only person who was busy? Here’s my (concise) story: had my first kid in 2014, lost my job 4 weeks later, got a job in Tampa, sold my first home, moved, etc. Being busy is the dog ate my homework of adult excuses. As Danny said, the government doesn’t owe you. I find it implausible that you were ignorant of the requirements while at the same time demonizing Obama, Pelosi and Schumer. And you didn’t have to read a 20,000 page bill or even try to understand it (that’s just deflection). What you needed to do was go online or make some calls. It’s so interesting what a failure the ACA is to conservatives, even when they had no insurance. It was literally the best thing for the least money you could get! Bill sharing and junk insurance pale in comparison.

Now let’s talk about civility, because I refuse to be cordial to certain people and I don’t give a shit if you like all of the same things I like and live next door to me. What EXACTLY is your complaint about with “tens of millions of dollars handed out to illegal aliens”? I want details, maybe even links, or at least a cohesive argument about what it is that makes you mad about brown people coming to America. If you don’t engage with this query, you really can’t expect everyone in the news thread to hold your hands and sing kumbaya. We’re all Lightning fans is a pretty shitty shield for intolerance.