News of the Day III

[RSchmitz]

How can anyone hate pancakes, you monster!

LOL. Childhood PTSD from eating burnt Frisbees every Saturday for 18 years

[the_narrow_way]

Your opinion on the judge and self defense laws is as relevant as the fact that I hate pancakes.

Um, yeah, duh. But we're discussing the case aren't we? WTF? Pancake-hater.

[Hoek]

I like pancakes and waffles but it's all about french toast for me.

[RSchmitz]

I like pancakes and waffles but it's all about french toast for me.

Solid choice

[Donnie D]

The prosecution better pray that somehow the judges bad taste in music is enough of a technicality for a redo, because the actual trial looks over.

There is no "redo" if he is acquitted.

[Donnie D]

You think he just decided to roam the streets? Sounds like you don't actually know what happened. You can be forgiven if you are just getting your information from the media(even though there is video that shows him being chased from the dealership), but then you need to watch/read the trial before forming your opinion now that the facts are in the open. For the longest time I kept hearing that he traveled "out of state" and believed that meant some great distance and he purposefully went looking for trouble. Come to find out that "out of state" was 20 miles from his house and he had a job and family that lived in Kenosha.

Also, the problem with what the DA is doing, is that they are trying to use evidence that is not admissible in court. Anyone who has ever watched Law and Order knows you can't do that. These are pre-trial conditions, and the lead prosecutor has several times violated them and has had to be admonished by the judge.

Like I said, when Grosskreutz was asked if he approached Rittenhouse with his gun drawn, and was about to fire, and he said yes, that was the case. The last chance for a fair conviction would have been if they could get Rittenhouse to incriminate himself, which he didn't do.

He lives in Antioch, Illinois. He traveled 30 minutes to get to Kenosha, Wisconsin. He didn't have a job in Kenosha. According to his own testimony, he went to Kenosha to volunteer to clean graffiti off a high school.

Where the hell was his mother and why was this 17 year old out past 1:00 am with a gun violating curfew (not just the curfew after the riots, but the general curfew for persons under 18)? He had no business being there and murdered 2 individuals. But he's going to get off because the judge has a man crush on him.

[Bolthed]

Unfortunately can’t prosecute his mom for being terrible

[RSchmitz]

He lives in Antioch, Illinois. He traveled 30 minutes to get to Kenosha, Wisconsin. He didn't have a job in Kenosha. According to his own testimony, he went to Kenosha to volunteer to clean graffiti off a high school.

Where the hell was his mother and why was this 17 year old out past 1:00 am with a gun violating curfew (not just the curfew after the riots, but the general curfew for persons under 18)? He had no business being there and murdered 2 individuals. But he's going to get off because the judge has a man crush on him.

Oh wow, 30 minutes away AND he violated curfew?! Lock him up and throw away the key

It says a lot about you if you've watched the Grosskreutz CE and somehow come away thinking the judge will be the reason this is an acquittal.

[the_narrow_way]

It's important that he should not have been there. If he's not there trying to be a hero/vigilante taking care of what the cops couldn't then nobody would have got shot.

[RSchmitz]

It's important that he should not have been there. If he's not there trying to be a hero/vigilante taking care of what the cops couldn't then nobody would have got shot.

Are we arguing that Kyle was a dumb kid or that he is a murderer?

[Donnie D]

Oh wow, 30 minutes away AND he violated curfew?! Lock him up and throw away the key

He isn't being prosecuted for those actions, he's being prosecuted for killing two people and shooting a third.

The point is, as narrow way stated, if he had been at home at 1:00am instead of traveling 20 miles with a rifle to play junior soldier, this would have never happened.

[the_narrow_way]

Are we arguing that Kyle was a dumb kid or that he is a murderer?

When your negligent/illegal actions lead to a situation where people are injured and killed then it matters.

[RSchmitz]

When your negligent/illegal actions lead to a situation where people are injured and killed then it matters.

As it matters to a murder conviction? No

[RSchmitz]

He isn't being prosecuted for those actions, he's being prosecuted for killing two people and shooting a third.

The point is, as narrow way stated, if he had been at home at 1:00am instead of traveling 20 miles with a rifle to play junior soldier, this would have never happened.

Being 17, missing a curfew, and having to travel 30 minutes to reach Kenosha has absolutely fuck all to do with what you'd have to prove to show homicide. You called him a murderer, so let's stop with this bullshit and explain how you came to that conclusion.

[the_narrow_way]

You shouldn't separate the important factor of what came before from the series of events. If preceding events are not important then if a robber gets scared by a cop drawing a gun on him and shoots him then the robber would be able to justify a self-defense claim. Bullshit.

And here's another hypothetical situation, what if Rittenhouse was black? Do you honestly think everything from the way the cops treated him at the scene, how certain factions of the media and society are framing this, and how this judge is behaving would all be the same? No f'ing way. Is that Rittenhouse's fault? No. But it should matter and until it does then we're still fighting the Civil War.