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  • Originally posted by BurnTHalO View Post
    So, if you truly believe everyone just looked for things to complain about with Trump, why have I not seen a single thing from you praising some of the things put in place already by Biden that helps the economy and the common person?
    Pretty early to call on Joey, but I think he is off to a rough start.
    Show me something, quick, that he has just hit it out of the park.
    I know gas in Maine has gone up from 2.05 to 2.80 real quick. Pretty sure 50000 displaced out of work pipeline workers and families are not too pleased.
    We were an exporter of energy. Will that continue?
    On and on.
    He ripped off a record stack of executive orders, like 74 million other Americans opinions/votes did not matter. Said he was going to unite, be a president for all Americans....work across the aisle. Yeah...Give me a positive.

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    • I dunno, not having a President that actively sought to overthrow an election he lost is a refreshing change of pace.
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      Federally coordinating a vaccine rollout instead of pretending we are not putting 5K people in the ground a day has been pretty alright. The trend in deaths dropped like a stone as soon as our prior leadership left the building. If you were looking for something he hit out of the park (so far), look no further.
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      From a leadership perspective, having a leader who actually takes responsibility for the job he asked for, taking the blame and giving away the credit, rather than his predecessor who operated in the opposite, acting as though the country was merely there to reflect on his own glory, is also a refreshing change of pace.
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      Having it not be the stated objective to break families apart and use children (including infants) as bargaining chips against asylum seeking families, which was an indefensible and utterly horrific act that is just as much a stain on this country as Jim Crow or Japanese internment camps....also pretty good.
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      Not having a leader who at best plays footsie with neo nazis, white supremacists and at worst tells them to stand back and stand by before the aforementioned election overthrow attempt...also pretty great.
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      Having a leader who appeals to the better angels of our natures rather than foments division by appealing to our lesser devils....still pretty great.
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      Those gas prices, though. I dunno if it was worth it.
      Maybe we should put the tinpot tiny handed, smooth brained, dirt eating reprobate back in the oval? Nah....
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      Also ironic to consider that the COVID bill that just passed had 75% approval in the populace. Maybe they didn't canvas Maine hard enough, but it sure seems like that is governing to the entire population. He also brought in the GOP to negotiate, but like Obama, didn't find a lot of interest coming from the representatives of the 74 million you reference, but I've not been watching Fox News or listening to talk radio, so I have no idea how that is couched to those who prefer the comfort of self narrative lies to inconvenient truths.
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      I don't expect any of this to penetrate, most likely my comments will ricochet off into the ether like prior discussions. I make these points for the sake of the impartial reader.
      Bullshit Centrist and Ondrej Palat fan club member

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      • Originally posted by RSchmitz View Post
        I’m just going to say this, if we ever hope to achieve comprehensive immigration reform and legalize and nationalize the millions already here, we have to secure our border. Of all the things Republicans and Democrats could find middle ground and compromise on, this is it. Should have been done a decade ago

        Perhaps that is why nothing has happened, securing our border is difficult
        It's also contra to the interests of American businesses the way that they exploit the cheap labor. THAT is why nobody has "secured the border". It's because there are whole swaths of the American economy (construction, agriculture, hospitality) that would have to change their business models if it were.

        That's why you can't "secure the border" before you do immigration reform or vice versa. For that and many other reasons the two have to be linked.
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        • There's also that whole private land issue to building a border wall as well.
          Bullshit Centrist and Ondrej Palat fan club member

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          • Show me something, quick, that he has just hit it out of the park.
            U.S. COVID-19 deaths fall 22% last week, daily vaccinations set record
            The United States reported a 22% decline in deaths from COVID-19 last week, while vaccinations accelerated to a record 2.4 million shots per day, according to a Reuters analysis of state, county and CDC data.


            Shut up gp. Seriously. Your guy's incompetence helped kill 500 thousand people... so you'll forgive my being blunt when I tell you that although your guy's 74 million votes matter, the 81 million President Biden received matter a whole lot more. Elections have consequences. The American people chose these priorities in a free and democratic election. Suck it up and deal.
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            • Also... following the passage of the stimulus bill (that EVERY Republican voted against):



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              • Originally posted by gphockey View Post

                Pretty early to call on Joey, but I think he is off to a rough start.
                Show me something, quick, that he has just hit it out of the park.
                I know gas in Maine has gone up from 2.05 to 2.80 real quick. Pretty sure 50000 displaced out of work pipeline workers and families are not too pleased.
                We were an exporter of energy. Will that continue?
                On and on.
                He ripped off a record stack of executive orders, like 74 million other Americans opinions/votes did not matter. Said he was going to unite, be a president for all Americans....work across the aisle. Yeah...Give me a positive.
                Cool, so you are against that gender equality thing he executive ordered, against trying to ensure every American is able to vote, sanctioning mynamar, and throwing tariffs on aluminum from other countries to stimulate our economy. Yeah, sound terrible.

                And funny, 70% of Americans favor the stimulus. Including 40% of Republicans. Guess he's doing a few things for the people that legit tried to overthrow the elections.

                Oh, and while we are at it, 50,000? The highest I have seen is 11,000 temporary jobs, which comes from the company throwing the fuss. Most seem to say it's about 1,000 temporary, and 50 permanent jobs.

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                • Also...

                  One area where the stimulus will be acutely felt: poverty rates. Two different studies anticipate that the legislation will have a dramatic effect, projecting that millions of Americans will no longer be living in poverty in 2021. The bill, passed via reconciliation along party lines in both the House and Senate, includes measures that will expire in 2022, meaning that it's an open question what happens to poverty rates at that point.

                  A study out of the Center on Poverty & Social Policy at Columbia University found that the package could nearly halve child poverty, and would more than halve the rate for Black and Hispanic children. Broadly, that study projects that the annual poverty rate would fall from 12.3% to 8.2% — meaning it would drop by a third.

                  Meanwhile, a study from the Urban Institute finds the plan would cut poverty by over a third. That study projects that the annual poverty rate would shrink from 13.7% to 8.7%, with 16 million fewer Americans living in poverty in 2021.
                  https://www.businessinsider.com/stim...hildren-2021-3

                  Call me crazy, but slashing child poverty in half and overall poverty by a third seems like a "home run". I mean, if you're a real Christian and care about such things and not a narrowly defined range of right wing culture warrior wedge issues and whataboutism talking points.

                  And Biden's been in office, what? Two months? But by all means, label his presidency a bust. Continue to be disappointed and long wistfully for the golden days of Trump's first 100 days in office when he was busy lying about the size of the inauguration crowd, signing bigoted Muslim travel bans, and adding self-professed white nationalists to the West Wing staff. "Home runs" all in your world, I'm sure.
                  Last edited by pete; 03-17-2021, 08:33 PM.
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                  • Originally posted by gphockey View Post

                    Pretty early to call on Joey, but I think he is off to a rough start.
                    Show me something, quick, that he has just hit it out of the park.
                    I know gas in Maine has gone up from 2.05 to 2.80 real quick. Pretty sure 50000 displaced out of work pipeline workers and families are not too pleased.
                    We were an exporter of energy. Will that continue?
                    On and on.
                    He ripped off a record stack of executive orders, like 74 million other Americans opinions/votes did not matter. Said he was going to unite, be a president for all Americans....work across the aisle. Yeah...Give me a positive.

                    You. Are. A. Fucking. Moron.


                    I’m a senior. As are Donnie, Puckhead, and JB.

                    Who knew?

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                    • 52.5 million of those 74 million votes were courtesy of V. Putin’s IT staff.
                      "To Serve Man" It's a Cookbook!

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                      • So, in conclusion, allow me to point out that the person alleging to the be a "pro life" and very "Christian" voter is...
                        1. Upset that Joe Biden is reversing Trump-era policies designed to use cruelty against immigrant children as a deterrent to asylum seekers.
                        2. Is unwilling to credit the Biden Administration for rapidly scaling up the nation's vaccination infrastructure beyond its stated goals in less than three months in order to face a pandemic that was horribly mismanaged by his predecessor and killed over 500,000 people.
                        3. Is presumably against a stimulus that not only cuts the poverty rate in the United States by a third, but specifically carves out a child tax credit that cuts child poverty in half.
                        Maybe, on this St. Patrick's Day, we should be tipping our caps to the VERY Irish and VERY Catholic President of the United States who is acting far more Christian than the hypocrites who are criticizing him now.

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                        • And if you don't like it, I hope Major the dog bites you in the ass.

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                          • Only a fucking idiot would mention the price of gas when asked how a president is doing. Trumpy the clown used to whine about it during Obama’s terms and claim he could “fix” it if he were president, but guess what? The prices just went higher and higher over the last four years. Why? Because it doesn’t have a fucking thing to do with who’s president!

                            Now do the bit about the shipping traffic on the Great Lakes. I love that one!
                            “Could I had posted cite a site?” — WWW dot Trump makes you dumb dot RU

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                            • Originally posted by gphockey View Post
                              I know gas in Maine has gone up from 2.05 to 2.80 real quick. Pretty sure 50000 displaced out of work pipeline workers and families are not too pleased. He ripped off a record stack of executive orders, like 74 million other Americans opinions/votes did not matter.
                              What does Biden have to do with gas prices? I guess I didn't realize he ran OPEC. And the pipeline? F the pipeline. What about the people who live near the pipeline, what about those who rely on water which is threatened by the constant leaks, what about the affect on the environment and the plants and animals? That pipeline is for moving product from Canada to Texas to sell on the global market. And as with all corporate propaganda the number of workers affected is greatly exaggerated too. Maybe they should be retrained in new technology that actually has a future. And executive orders are a problem now but they weren't for the past four years? Did anything Trump do show that he gave a flying f about all of those who didn't vote for him in 2016? One of my coworkers is a staunch Fox News watcher and literally every point you just tried to make she tried to bring up at work over the last week. Pathetic.
                              Last edited by the_narrow_way; 03-18-2021, 12:37 AM.

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